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Swordfighting with Vadi

I started editing the second edition of my book Swordfighting for Writers, Game Designers, and Martial Artists a little while ago and pretty quickly it developed into a total rewrite, aimed solely at writers. I’ve cut 45,000 words already, and will probably end up redoing the whole thing from scratch. Good writing is all about the reader, so I created an online form for writers to ask me questions, to help me figure out what they need to know. Many of the responses have been very on-topic for the book I’m trying to write, and I’ll answer those questions in due course in the book.

But some folk took the opportunity to ask me whatever they wanted (and why not?). As there’s no reasonable prospect of addressing the questions in the book, I thought I’d do it here instead. Some of the questions have lengthy answers that I've already given in books and courses, so while I've tried to give a brief stab at it here, I'll also link to the relevant longer work. I’m running a Swordschool birthday sale until the end of March 2025: use the code SWORDSCHOOL24 at checkout to get 24% off any digital product (ebooks, courses, etc.).

There were a bunch of questions about Vadi, and how he relates to Fiore. I’ll start with them:

Q: I am curious, working from my own copy, how Vadi's implicit tactics compare to Fiore's?

A: Both masters include attacking and countering the defence; and waiting for the attack to counter it. They both agree that you should control your opponent's weapon. Arguably Vadi makes more mention of feints, but other than that I don't see much difference.

Q: Would you include discussion of Vadi's use of measure, feints, and counter-cutting vs slicing-off vs blocking passively in an interpretive section, or within the main body of the text?

A: I wouldn’t include it at all in a book on writing swordfights. It’s way too specific to one source, and way too technical. Also, slicing-off and passive blocking aren’t mentioned anywhere in Vadi that I can find. He also doesn’t explicitly discuss measure.

Q: How do Vadi's regional origins contribute to which techniques or tactics he emphasises (eg does the law code of Vadi's residence effect what kinds of executive action he favours, as compared to other contemporary fencing treatises)?

A: We have no way to know. There are no contemporary sources at all: Fiore was 70 years earlier, the first Bolognese sources 40+ years later. Vadi doesn’t mention law at all, and while there may be a connection between local law codes and what he recommends, it’s impossible to say. Are we talking in Urbino, where the dedicatee was Duke? or in Pisa, where Vadi came from?

Q: Which works were influenced by Vadi's work?

A: I’ve not found any direct evidence of Vadi’s influence in any later works. I go through the possible relationship between Vadi’s guards and the Bolognese guards in the introduction to my book The Art of Sword Fighting in Earnest.

Q: How does Vadi's work relate to Fiore's work?

A: It’s a short question with a very long answer, which you’ll find in the introduction to my book The Art of Sword Fighting in Earnest. Basically, I think it’s unlikely that Vadi was taught in a direct lineage from Fiore, and he may or may not have read a version of Il Fior di Battaglia. There’s not enough internal evidence to say for sure.

Then some more general questions:

Q: Learning fight choreography is challenging enough without running out of breath or not being able to fight with a sword in rehearsals and the actual performance. How do you train actors to get fit for stage sword fighting if they have not already been sword fighting before including arm strength and endurance?

A: I don’t. But I do train anyone who wants to learn, regardless of their physical fitness, so my system includes a huge amount of training solutions for range of motion, strength, joint health, and fitness. You’ll find them in the Solo Training course, or in my book The Principles and Practices of Solo Training.

Q: I'm a martial artist (Shito-Ryu karate) and one of my biggest shifts for fencing vs karate is what moves first (I tend to move hip first/at the same time for MA and have been repeatedly reminded that it's sword first for rapier fighting). Do you have any recommendations to facilitate the change in mindset between picking up a sword in ongoing training and my continuing karate work? IDK how question-y my question is: rewording is sort of how to keep my karate habits and rapier habits separate I guess? While still actively training and building in both and acknowledging that there is crossover for pieces like some stances, mindset, footwork, etc.

A: Yes I do. In short, if you understand why you move in a certain way, not just intellectually but at a fundamental ‘this solves a problem’ level, then you’ll move correctly for whatever you’re doing. In other words, if your mind is on the right thing (solving the problem presented by your opponent), and you’ve been trained to solve that problem correctly, you’ll do it correctly. It’s not a matter of style (which you have to remember), it’s a matter of function (which is made obvious by the context). In the same way that you might talk shit with your mates, but speak politely in a business meeting, you’ll initiate with the hip when doing karate (because it works better that way), and with the point of the sword when doing rapier (because it works better that way).

The best example of this was teaching a student to do a scannatura with a rapier (plate 13 from Capoferro). He kept binding the opponent’s point down and walking onto it, because he wasn’t leading enough with the sword. I took a sharp rapier off the wall and took the part of the opponent. He bound that sharp scary stabby thing the hell away from himself and then stepped in. Problem solved. Don’t try this at home, but you get the idea, I hope.

Q: How would you describe the difference in fighting styles between a Fiore fighter and a Chinese Jian user?

A: I wouldn’t, because I don’t know any Jian users who actually fight. (I’m sure there are many, I just don’t know them). My first step would be to find such people, and watch them train and fence, and ideally fence with them. Then compare that to what I know (Fiore stuff). As a writer, you could find someone using a jian online in the way that works for your character, and someone doing the same with a longsword, and compare what you see.

Q: I teach a Beowulf camp and include a HEMA section. I use Liechtenauer. Is that a good source to pair with Beowulf?

A: No. It’s many centuries later, and a completely different weapon. Beowulf dates to around 1000AD, so they would be using what laypeople think of as “Viking” swords, shields, and armour. The closest we have to that is probably I.33 sword and buckler. (I have a course on it here.) There are folk online working with swords and shields from that period, but it’s always going to be reconstructive archaeology, not based on written sources (because there aren’t any). Doesn’t mean they’re wrong though!

Q: What would be the best content to teach writers as a HEMA instructor? I teach at a writing conference and do the basics of long sword and short sword over three days. My goal is experience over sitting, but there's so much to offer!

A: AFAIK there’s no such thing as “short sword” in historical martial arts. So I don’t know what you’re teaching there. But I’d say that all writers would benefit from either longsword, or rapier, or both, because they are the two most common types of swords used in historical fiction and fantasy. Of course historical fiction writers would be best served with a style from their period. E.g. smallsword or backsword/sabre for Napoleonic era swordsmanship, Liechtenauer or Fiore for late 14th-early 15th century, etc. But that’s probably out of scope for this kind of intro class.

If you have questions you’d like to see answered in the book, here’s the form: https://forms.gle/QHspLZNQ2Lw7A1nT9

Questions that are off-topic for the book are best asked on my social media platform, swordpeople.com in the “advice wanted”, “pub”, or “salle” spaces.

If you want access to any of the courses, the best value is probably the subscription package: access to everything for $45/month. You can get 24% off with the code SWORDSCHOOL24 The code also works for ebooks and audiobooks at swordschool.shop. The code expires on March 31st.


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    Swordschool turned 24 years old yesterday! March 17th 2001 saw the very first class I taught as a full-time professional instructor, at the Olympic Stadium in Helsinki.

    Not the whole Olympic Stadium. A small room somewhere inside it. I was expecting about 6 to 12 people, and something over 70 showed up. Some of them are still training now.

    I don’t have a photo of that very day, but digging around through the archives I found some golden oldies.

    Here’s what a rapier class looked like in (I think) 2002:

    Rapier class at swordschool in about 2002
    Guy leading a rapier class a very long time ago

    And the photoshoot for The Swordsman’s Companion in 2003 was very serious.

    photographer shooting pics of two fencers
    Jari Pallari, Topi Mikkola, and me.

    And lots of hard work.

    Nikodemus, Ville, me, Topi, Rami, and Jari going over the photos.

    And nobody fooled around because it was serious hard work.

    Ninja versus Falchion. Miika and Nikodemus “training” while Zach watches.

    The School depended so entirely on the goodwill and trust of those early adopters, who had no good reason to believe I knew what I was doing, but turned up to class anyway.

    So to celebrate Swordschool turning 24, you can use the code SWORDSCHOOL24 at checkout to get 24% off all digital products (not printed books, t-shirts etc, sorry. They cost too much to produce!). You can find courses at courses.swordschool.com, and books, audiobooks, and print-at-home pdfs of my card game Audatia at swordschool.shop

    Just use the code at checkout to get the discount. The code expires on March 31st.

    Thanks for coming along on the Swordschool ride, whenever it was you started!


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      Hallelujah! At last! After three months of back and forth with the printers (and setting up to print with someone else at twice the price), the Fiore Facsimile with translation is now working properly.

      Everyone who bought it in December has had their order re-run yesterday, so new copies are being printed and shipped. Now that they have been taken care of, we can open it up for new orders!

      The Facsimile

      This book reproduces the Getty manuscript in its entirety, in full colour, and as close as possible to the size of the original.

      Spada Press facsimile of Il Fior di Battaglia on Guy's desk

      But that's not all:

      The second half of this volume is a second reproduction of the manuscript with the original Italian text replaced by my English translation. This recreates the experience of reading the original Italian as closely as possible. The book also includes an introduction to Fiore and his life and times, the provenance of the manuscript, and suggestions for further study.

      This way, you get the original, and the translation, in one volume… for the same price as the original facsimile-only edition.

      The excellent Katie Mackenzie has done a gorgeous job on the cover and layout:

      Interior page spread of the manuscript showing the translation

      The translation section includes tags on the pages so you can find the section you want from the page edges.

      The Facsimile Companion Volume

      If you buy the facsimile you will get a free ebook copy of the companion volume, which includes a complete transcription of the manuscript. Or you can order it as a paperback too (with a discount if you get them both together).

      Spada Press facsimile of Il Fior di Battaglia and companion volume on Guy's deskYou can  find the facsimile here, and the companion volume here.

      It has been a long slog to get this to work, for reasons that don't really matter (six defective proofs before we got a good one. The previous record is one). It started with the awful cold-water shock of embarrassment when I realised we had shipped defective books, and ended with an eye-watering bill for reprinting and shipping new ones. But I've done my best to keep everyone informed, and to make good on the trust placed in me by everyone who buys from my store.
      So, not the customer experience I was hoping to generate for my people, but we got there in the end!


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        Jessica Finley throwing Guy Windsor with a twirchringen from Von Baumann. Medieval german wrestling for the win!

        Medieval German Wrestling Course: the Twirchringen of the Von Baumann manuscript

        The long-awaited Medieval German Wrestling course from Jessica Finley is finally ready!

        Last June I flew to Kansas to shoot Fiore dagger plays with Jessica Finley. While I was there she asked if we could also shoot a course on Von Baumann’s wrestling plays, because they formed such a handy mini-system. A great introduction to German wrestling, and also useful to broaden the education of Fiore scholars. She had helped me with the Abrazare (Fiore’s wrestling) course the previous year, so she knew what it Fiore covered- and what he left out. And she thought Von Baumann’s Twirchringen plays would fill some of the gaps.

        That was a very easy HELL YES! for me, and so we set to work.

        I love Fiore, as you probably know. And I think his abrazare section, taken in context with especially the dagger plays, is relatively complete. But it’s not intended to be anything like a comprehensive wrestling method: it’s just the abrazare plays you need as a foundation for the entire knightly combat system.

        Assisting Jessica on this course on the Twirchringen added a great deal of breadth to my own wrestling knowledge, and I think every Fiore scholar who doesn’t yet have a solid wrestling background (which includes me! My unarmed experience is mostly punching and kicking) will find this a really useful way to broaden their base.

        This comprehensive course delves into the fascinating world of medieval German wrestling, exploring the seven Twirchringen (cross-wrestling) plays from the 15th-century Von Baumann manuscript. You’ll learn the core techniques, their counters, and the counter-counters that make this selection of techniques such a useful mini-system.

        This course is ideal for:

        •Beginners looking for an accessible introduction to medieval wrestling.

        •Practitioners of German or Italian medieval martial arts seeking to expand their knowledge of unarmed combat.

        •Anyone with an interest in historical martial arts and the rich traditions of medieval combat.

        Course Structure:

        1. Introduction: Course overview, safety briefing, and academic materials (transcription and translation of the Von Baumann manuscript).
        2. First Twirchringen: The first play, its counter, and the counter to the counter.
        3. Second Twirchringen: The second play, its counter, and the counter to the counter.
        4. Third Twirchringen: The third play, its counter, and the counter to the counter.
        5. Fourth Twirchringen: The fourth play, its counter, and the counter to the counter.
        6. Fifth Twirchringen: The fifth play, its counter, and the counter to the counter.
        7. Sixth Twirchringen: The sixth play, its counter, and the counter to the counter.
        8. Seventh Twirchringen: The seventh play, its counter, and the counter to the counter.
        9. Connecting the Plays: Techniques for setting up the plays, and ways to link them together for fluid combat.

        You can check out the entire first section for free on the sales page here.

        Please do share that link wherever you like, and with any friends you have who you think might be interested. If you have any questions, feel free to ask.

        The 40% discount ends on February 9th at midnight.

        If you are a Patron, or have bought the Abrazare or Hauptstucke courses, you should already have received an even bigger discount code. If that's not the case, drop me an email and I'll send it to you.


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          Lenard headshot

          In 2011 I dedicated my book The Medieval Dagger to “Lenard Voelker: Gentleman, Scholar, and an inspirational Martial Artist.”

          A few days before Christmas I got a call from Lenard’s grandson Kyle to let me know that my old friend had died. ‘Old’ in both senses- we have been friends for over 20 years, and he was into his eighties. You may not know who he was, so I’ll sketch out for you the reasoning behind that dedication. It will give you a sense of the man as I knew him.

          I first met Lenard at one of the early ISMAC events, probably in 2001. He was instantly identifiable by his profusion of white hair, and his posture- he was pretty tall, and a lifetime of politely stooping for us short-arses had left him a bit of a hunch. He was very easy to underestimate, a mistake I never made again after our first fencing match. Smallswords. But not the delicate stand-offish fencing that those who don’t understand smallswords might be thinking of. No. Lenard ‘fenced’ smallsword the same way he ‘sparred’ with a knife. A vicious flurry of aggression and speed, completely at odds with his usual gentle demeanour. Let me put it this way: fencing with Lenard was a pleasure and an education: but there’s no way in hell I’d ever want to fight him.

          It says a great deal about the man that at the same event where we had a little ceremony presenting him with a sword celebrating his 50 years (so far) of training in martial arts, he paid me for a private lesson. I was about 30. He would have slaughtered me in any kind of fight, but he was happy to learn from anyone, and very excited by the growing field of historical martial arts. He epitomised the humility that is supposed to go along with being a martial artist, but very rarely does. Inspirational martial artist, indeed.

          Lenard with a big bowie in one hand and a sixgun in the other.He was generous and kind in all sorts of ways. At (probably) the second event we were at together, he brought a couple of books for me. Just because he thought I might like them. And this became something of a ritual. We met at many events, and he would always have something I would never have thought to pick out for myself, but which were always interesting, and often useful. One such book was restauranteur Danny Meyer’s book Setting the Table. Another was Plato’s The Last Days of Socrates. I reciprocated with Ellis Amdur’s Duelling with O-Sensei, and others. What a scholar, with a breadth and depth of reading you don’t find often.

          The last long conversation I had with him in person was in his garden, drinking beer and eating barbecue with him and his lovely wife Mai, and some friends, just chatting about martial arts and everything else, putting the Universe to rights. Even though we hadn’t seen each other in person for far too long, it was somehow entirely in Lenard’s character that the grandson he helped to raise would, in the midst of his own grief, take the time to call in person to let me know of his passing. What a gentleman.

          Most of our in-person meetings occurred before social media was really a thing, so I don’t actually have any photos of us together. If you happen to have one, please share it with me.


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            Guy with three Mexican students, all with thought bubbles. Mexico City 2024

            7 Countries. 4 Continents. 6 books. Two online courses. And one really good idea (I think).

            It’s kind of absurd to summarise an entire year in a single blog post, especially such a busy and yet somehow still productive year as the last 12 months have been, but I need to get a handle on what my actual choices were. It’s all very well to say you prioritise x or emphasise y, but looking back you may well find that you actually prioritised z.

            It seems that this year I’ve prioritised pushing books out the door (sometimes faster than they should be), and travelling as much as I can handle. Leaving aside family travel (such as starting the year on holiday in Italy with my wife and kids, taking my wife to Porto for a weekend, and the whole family to Spain for a summer holiday, and visiting my mum in Scotland (which is a whole other country)), in 2024 I went to:

            • Helsinki, in February and again in May, teaching seminars for the Gladiolus School of Arms (which I’ll be doing again in mid-January 2025)
            • Singapore in April, to teach seminars for PHEMAS
            • Wellington, New Zealand, in April, to teach a seminar for a friend’s club (I segued through Melbourne on my way home to catch up with friends)
            • The USA: Lawrence, Kansas to shoot video with Jessica Finley, Madison Wisconsin to teach a couple of seminars, and Minneapolis likewise
            • Potsdam, Germany, for Swords of the Renaissance
            • Mexico City for the Panoplia Iberica, and then Queretaro for a smaller event.

            That’s a total of 73 nights away from home for work trips. Damn. I’ve loved it, and will be doing some travelling in 2025, but both my daughters have major exams coming up in June (A-levels for one, GCSEs for the other), so I need to be home for much of at least the first half of the year.

            Publishing

            In January 2024 I published From Your Head to Their Hands: how to write, publish, and market training manuals for historical martial artists. Perhaps the nichiest book I’ve ever written, but it was there in my head in between editing drafts of the wrestling book (see below), so I got it out of my head and into your hands. See what I did there?

            In March I published the long-awaited and technically “first” volume in the From Medieval Manuscript to Modern Practice series: The Wrestling Techniques of Fiore dei Liberi. Only 4 years after what will become the third volume (The Longsword Techniques of Fiore dei Liberi). It took me that long because the pandemic stopped me from going to Kansas to shoot the supporting video material with Jessica Finley. Well, that’s my excuse and I’m sticking to it. It was also just bloody hard to write.

            The second volume (on the Dagger Techniques of Fiore dei Liberi) should be out in early 2025, and at that point I’ll re-cover the Wrestling and Longsword volumes and make them look and behave more like a book series.

            Proof if ever you needed it that there’s no need to do things in order.

            In August I published Get Them Moving: How to Teach Historical Martial Arts. This is another super-nichey book. I’m not aiming at the mass market here, just clearing things out of my head so I can get on with other things. Books do that: they simply insist on being written and published, and won’t let me alone until I’ve got them out the door.

            I also managed to edit all the new material for my Medieval Dagger Course, which I had shot in Kansas. I also have a bunch of longsword material to publish, and an entire course on German Medieval Wrestling (Jessica Finley’s work).

            In September I published the celebratory 20th Anniversary edition of my first book, The Swordsman’s Companion, and I’ve made the ebook free on all platforms. The book is hopelessly out of date as regards interpretation, but it’s an interesting window into the state of the art as it was in 2004. And it got a lot of people into historical martial arts.

            In November we published the magnificent facsimile of the Getty manuscript, with my complete translation. Unfortunately that ran into some bizarre technical problems after the first 50 or so orders had come through, so at the time of writing we are fixing the problem and reprinting the books. I also created a companion volume which includes the complete transcription as well; it’s not intended as a standalone, but it is finished and has been sent out to all the buyers of the facsimile, so I guess that counts as two more books, taking the year’s total to a somewhat absurd 6. If you consider that my first book came out 20 years ago, and in that time I’ve written and published about 18 books: a full third of them in this year alone.

            Of course, publishing comes after writing, and a lot of this year’s output were mostly or at least partly written over the last few years; they just happened to be ready all at once.

            My podcast The Sword Guy hit 200 episodes in December 2024, and I’ve decided to pause a while to think about what I want to do for the next 20, 50, or 100 episodes.

            Business stuff

            I had two main goals for 2024: to figure out how to open up my platform to other instructors, and to create partnerships with other businesses serving the HMA community. I’ve made progress on both those fronts.

            Esko Ronimus’s course “Introduction to Bolognese Swordsmanship” went live on courses.swordschool.com in October this year. This is different to the collaborations I’ve done before (such as Jessica Finley’s Medieval Wrestling course) because I was not directly involved in creating it. I didn’t direct the shoot, edit the video, or take part in the production in any way. I just provided a platform to host it on, and some advice on structuring the course and marketing it. So far both Esko and I are happy with the results, and I’m open to requests from other instructors…

            If you’ve bought a sword from Malleus Martialis in the past year you may well have got a discount code for one or other of my online courses, or a code to get one of my ebooks for free. This kind of thing is good for Malleus (they can offer more to their customers at no cost to themselves, and make an affiliate fee on any course sales), good for the customer (they get free or discounted stuff they are likely to be interested in), and me (I get some of the course sales money, and someone who may not know my work becomes familiar with it, and may go and buy a bunch more of my books). So if you’re in the business, and want to set something up, let me know.

            Research stuff

            This year there has been one significant change to my interpretation of Fiore’s Armizare: the three turns of the sword. This doesn’t change much about how we actually do things, but it affects the underlying theory behind the art, and solves a mystery that has been plaguing us for decades. Full credit to Dario Alberto Magnani. You can listen to the entire conversation here.

            It also meant updating my translation of the Flower of Battle: I deleted one word. A very critical word. “Also”. Yes, it makes a difference.

            Plans for 2025

            I came back from Mexico with one clear vision of a problem to solve. Namely, I travel about a lot giving seminars, and so I get to see a lot of students, but only every now and then, and many of them I’ll never see again. This is unsatisfying. I don’t get to see the long-term effects of the things they have learned from me. I don’t get to see them develop over time. Of course there is some continuity, especially when I go back to teach at clubs regularly, but it’s not ideal for either me or the students.

            So what to do about it? The thing that blows the students’ minds most consistently are insights into swordsmanship mechanics. Ask Leon in Mexico or Rigel in Singapore about the rapier guard quarta, and how stringering works. The look of utter startlement on students’ faces when they get it is the absolute best thing. I’m thinking about creating an online course that goes into the absolute fundamentals (ie the most important but least flashy) of how sword mechanics work, and making it free: but required for anyone signing up to one of my seminars when I travel. This will let me cover a lot more stuff in the class itself, and prepare them better to actually make use of the insights. And it will hopefully bring them more into my orbit, make them more likely to show up on swordpeople.com with good questions, more likely to come to the next seminar, etc.

            I also want to create an online course on Vadi’s longsword (might as well shoot my interpretation of the entire manuscript while we’re at it), publish the dagger volume of From Medieval Manuscript to Modern Practice, maybe shoot the video for the armoured combat and/or mounted combat volumes, and finish The Armizare Workbook Part Two (which has been more than half written for over a year… but is still stuck in hard-drive purgatory). Part One came out in 2022, and I meant to get Part Two out in mid ’23. Oh well.

            I’m planning to make all of the supporting video for From Medieval Manuscript to Modern Practice (so, clips of every play from Folio 1 to Folio 31v of the Getty ms) free online. They are currently only visible through the links in the books. But making them open to all should help my fellow scholars, and also provide advertising for the books. Another win-win.

            The key thing to remember here is that planning is vital but plans are useless. There is no way to predict the future, and all sorts of things might get in the way of any or all of my intentions for the year. But having a think about what I want to accomplish, and why, makes it much more likely that I’ll be able to look back on 2025 with some degree of satisfaction. Let’s see what actually happens…


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